It sounds like the NHS has some of the same issues we have in the US, a lot of “Dupers” that have no clue on how data mechanics logic works from reading this article. You have to realize today that an insurance company is not just one function, they do a lot of different things to include data selling. In the US, United Healthcare is one of the biggest data selling companies around and they make money at it as well as drug store chains like CVS and
Walgreens pulling in 1 to 2 billion with a “B” selling data. It’s an epidemic and sadly it sounds like it’s moving it’s way into the NHS with again “duping the government” on value.
“Sharing for the Good” in the US started out that way years ago, but it’ no more as companies found they can make money with mining and selling our personal data versus just giving it away and thus “For the Good” has readily been replaced with “For the Good Money” and I should add here, it’s their good money and not yours. Here’s the original post where over 47 million records were sold.
Major Insurance Company in the UK Bought 47 Million Medical Records From the NHS
If you have some “data mechanics logic” about you, it’s not hard to figure this out as you can visualize exactly where folks go for the money, it’s in the data. As a matter of fact some of the doctors and employees of the NHS created a documentary on how all of this and related analytics is not creating better care for patients and we have the same problem in the US, with just a heck of a lot more data to profit from, well not us, them. Also in the US too, these models are beginning to fail as well as the double sell with making a buck and providing better care is just not happening. Sure when you mine registries of medical records and keep that all in house to help create better care, that works, but it’s not what’s being done today as the sharing “for the good money” has taken over.
The Take Over and Sell Off of the NHS–By Companies from the United States, United Healthcare and Others - A Documentary
Here’s another example her in the US where the high hopes of Big Data seem to be deluged a bit, again for the sake of making money. You have Optum Labs making money with paying subscribers such as Merck, Boston Scientific and more digging through de-identified medical records and sure there will be some findings come out of this but it’s not going to be some big pot of gold that is currently being sold out there
with data. You can mine and dig through data and always find “something” of course of use, but again it’s being way over rated today with trying to sell “some great white hope” that doesn’t exist, so enter the “dupers” that cling on to this belief and data selling for profit continues to grow. Patients at Mayo for example all have their de-identified records sent to Optum Labs for the paying clients to research and mine through.
I was chatting with an EMR vendor not too long ago and they said this is way over rated with the way insurers are pushing claim data as it’s the clinical data that matters. In science and genomics, big data is the business but that’s not what’s being done here so far at Optum Labs, again the push is “here have some claim data” at the front.
UnitedHealthGroup and AARP Get Cozier, AARP Still Gets Paid for Marketing Use of AARP Name As AARP Becomes an Optum Labs Data Selling Promoter Amidst Doctor Complaints Received Relative To United Firing of 5500 MDs–Subsidiary Watch
Also the US Government has an entity at the FDA that does the same thing as money making Optum Labs is doing relying on “donated” data called the “Sentinel” program so again see where profit holes are cut here. In way you can’t blame Mayo for looking at additional revenue streams as their compensation is being cut from insurers when you get to the other side of the insurance business. As a matter of fact those who buy an exchange insurance policy this year with United Healthcare will probably not only experience “narrow networks” but you might also want to know that your MD who is “in network” will be paid at reimbursement rates a shade above Medicaid and below Medicare rates. I started calling it “The Secret Scoring of America’s Doctors’ when this occurs as our US doctors are given no reason for being knocked out of network and it’s the Quants modeling and designing our US insurance policies, some of which were former employees of Hedge Funds and Banks. It is what it is. I expect most readers to bail at this point as it makes them uncomfortable to see the word “Quant” and healthcare working together and granted I’m not happy with it as it’s all about money but please just see the reality of what it is.
Data Scientists/Quants in the Health Insurance Business–Modeling Beyond the Speed and Capabilities of Humans To Keep Up With The Affordable Care Act–Turning Into A World of Killer Algorithms That We All Hate..
“Sharing for the Good” is in in fact not an illusion; however today it minimally exists as it’s been taken over by “Sharing for the Good Money” as as consumers we marketed to the fact that is is is “for the good” when it is not. We don’t know who’s selling our personal data and repackaging us over and over and thus the best way to deal with this today due to data selling epidemic for profit is just to assume sharing is “for the good money” and so far it has not lead me down the wrong path when I apply some data mechanics logic. It’s like banks and companies with data burning a hole in their pockets with our data, if you will today.
This is why I came up with the idea in the US to have all data sellers be licensed as that would provide consumers a look up of what banks and companies sell, i.e. what kind of data they sell and to whom. You can’t even start with any real privacy efforts until you know who the players (data sellers) are until you get step one accomplished. This is where the lawyers and others who have no data mechanics logic have stumbled for years as their perceptions of what’s really going on are wrong and they are dupers. I’ve read all their whacked out perceptions for years now.
There’s been no better care as a result and as a matter of fact we pay for all these additional services as the overhead is included in our premiums. Here’s my campaign and for those UK readers here, maybe it might be an answer to help the NHS there as well
. This is like the blind leading the blind with lawmakers and lawyers out there and of course this will meet with some objections of the data sellers as the big dupe works for them and they don’t want transparency here.
Licensing All Data Sellers – We Need Transparency on Who’s Selling What Kind of Data to Who…
Here’s another link from a Computer Scientist that all tells how this practice is stripping consumers of their dignity and freedom and one below where I discussed the acceleration of inequality as data selling also allows scoring of consumers to disallow you access to something and the web data is becoming more flawed all the time, so people are judged on fake or flawed numbers.
Computer Scientist Jaron Lanier, Computer Scientist Explains How Big Data Is Used to Limit Our Freedom–The Value of Your Personal Data…
Data Selling and the Direct Correlation To Accelerated Inequality - Epidemic Spreading Like A Virus Moving Money Keeping Corporations Cash Rich and Consumers Cash Poor
Who knows when things really get tough, and I say this with a bit of satire but nothing surprises me
anymore, maybe the new data selling developers will be trained and working from US Prisons? Don’t laugh as we have that going on here in the US, which is pretty silly if you look at rehabilitation as it would be much better to prepare prisoners with computer skills that consumers use every day versus sticking them in “hard coding classes”:) We have a bunch of nut cases running the world today and goofy perceptions such as San Quentin get sold to the non data mechanics dupers all the time. BD
Training Prisoners to Code At San Quentin–What A Great Way to Train Future Hackers…
Be careful and be aware over there in the UK and keep on top of what’s going on as you might prisoners writing your next medical records program before long, that is to keep the data selling business “for good money” alive and growing. Spend some time at the Killer Algorithms page and learn up on what goes on behind the scenes here as it’s the machines and those who load up the code that’s running things.
It sounds like Sir Nick Partridge with the Health and Social Care Information Center is in the same boat with our US Dupers in not seeing how this impacts consumers but those folks live in different worlds and cast a blind eye or are just blatantly “that duped”. BD
The National Health Service will continue to sell medical data to insurers and other third parties despite an investigation that has discovered tens of thousands of patient records were unlawfully sold.
Fears were raised earlier this year that patient records were being misused and sold to insurers, and the Government amended the law to restrict access to data.
The report from an eight-month inquiry has found tens of thousands of records were wrongly passed to third parties.
However writing in the Telegraph, Sir Nick Partridge, the deputy chairman of the Health and Social Care Information Centre, says that the NHS will continue to sell the information, arguing that proper checks and balances are now in place.
Actuaries had admitted that they could obtain 13 years of hospital data – covering 47 million patients identified by date of birth and postcode – in order to help insurance companies “refine” their premiums.
The data sold came from hospital records. But the furore coincided with growing concerns over an NHS project to store details from GP records in a giant database.
about the media being affected by this phenomena. He states we have failed the tests of realities, but it really doesn’t work. I have a post on that one from a while back as well which refers to the confusion we have out there today with people not being able to tell the difference between virtual world values and the real world. It’s been a pretty popular post.
all of it, but it’s good to be aware and understand what they are working with today. He states sure we need both, input from people and data. News media companies are all hiring data scientists to handle some of the more complex data situations to take a look at data and see if there’s story in it. We get some good stories and sometimes we get junk with numbers that may not relate to us as consumers. We have to remember too that stock markets on Monday through Friday when the markets are open, the bots get the news first and we are the secondary audience to the bot.
own can be very misleading and he called the Economist a “views paper” and gives options for readers to choose from. Also we have to be aware of over quantitation and I wrote about that a while back with some news articles we read today.
This is like a bunch of kids out there with the handling and news reporting of this error, I have never seen anything like it but it goes to show that once emotions get involved here, and we are all humans, how the distraction levels disconnect folks from what really matters. I mean I have to laugh not only at the folks picking this apart, but also the administration reaction.
just work methodically with data and marketing and take over..so what do you think has happened here? I had a banker the other day that loved the correlation of the Sebelius Syndrome:)
of technology and both the good and bad that comes out of it, as there’s both. I’m just reading all the press on this and thinking to myself “what a circus of distraction” and furthermore, what’s accomplished other than some air time on TV and web? Oh yeah, let’s have some disciplinary action for the hard working techs that probably made an honest mistake, burn the tech folks at the cross, the bad guys:) I don’t give a darn about this “public service servants” line given, just get your perceptions on with the real world and let’s move forward. Everyday the gap between how the administration reacts and talks in the press and the strange perceptions just play out much clearer every time and it’s not doing much for the public’s perception of managing the agency.
“look what a pretty infographics I made” and it’s also a very negative impact on those who are abuse, like infographic bullying if you will. People that are obese are not hidden in some data base somewhere where you can’t find them but on the web, the folks that live way too virtual seem to think there’s something to that.
was initiated, it was pretty cut and dry but technology itself moved so fast, the add on came way too fast and quick to be totally absorbed. The model as created for state two didn’t show that but when it got down to using it in the real world, well that’s when everything comes out in the open as far as whether a model is ok as is or needs adjustments.
not be a coder or you can learn to code and have that logic and never code, take your choice. Data mechanics logic is the key to understanding how all of it comes together, so you could take classes and never code but if you grasp the concept it will make you a much smarter person.
with that idea as it won’t work. Now back on track various states are trying to figure out now that the Federal funds are going away, how to stay open. These are the states that set up their own exchanges and not the ones covered by Healthcare. Gov. Those states have another issue called a “lawsuit” where the Supreme Court will make a decision on whether or not they are legal, so if it’s not one thing, it’s another.
times in 2 years, all inside jobs.
qualifications to get Medicare reimbursement so that might say something right there. It’s pretty bad when the regulators said it was like One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest. BD
sent back, depending on the “view” you have in your profile, so two people would get different answers if you will, in other words a Bull might see a different answer than a Bear for a simple analogy.
Garden City, Michigan, earlier this year.
slightly above what Medicaid pays, so I’m sure that’s what’s going on here as it’s all contracts and price. Other United Healthcare polices via employers and I’m guessing Medicare Advantage plans are still ok and accepted. Insurance carriers have had a busy year with hiring armies of quants and have zeroed in on the restrictive parameters of policies they will offer and making more of them carry a very high deductible which is basically coverage for a major event for most.
topic so this is nothing new and even some prior employees have said the same. Kaiser replied they are fixing things up and hiring more therapists to make the system better.
of years I seem to remember more of these types of products being approved or maybe I’m just imagining things? It comes from Purdue labs, one of the long time manufacturers of hydrocodone. Granted we need pain killers for short term after surgeries, etc. and some folks with long term use needed to where there’s not any other alternatives so they can’t go away. BD
and I can’t figure out for the life of me where in the heck she came up with some of her rationalizations and actions. She had some smart people and and dupers working for her, but I must say the dupers won, either that or she listened to neither and was left to her own duped perceptions.
nd it might be part media too, they don’t get it and still think a big shout down or another “he said she said” deal in the news is going to make a difference?
, it’s hitting the right key note to get the person motivated to lose weight for themselves and then everyone wins and you don’t need stupid websites like this. When a person loses weight for their own self esteem, that’s the best by all means. I wrote a while back too about another sick bunch that likes to sit around and map the obese in the US. Well it’s not like they are hiding anywhere and it takes one glance to recognize one who is obese so why all the infographics? It’s because the people who do them are suffer from narcissism and want you to see their “beautiful” work and the obese who are mapped, well they could be mapping anything really as it doesn’t matter.
in their eyes and that’s not right as the obese need a little compassion and a reason to care, not this. We have way many lost today in virtual world values this is the prime example right here. Heck look at the example the White House produces and this one got my attention as again folks confusing virtual values with real world values. Now go take a look at the fatties in Congress and nobody’s on their case are they?